‘Making-an-elephant-out-of-a-mouse and making-a-mouse-out-of-an-elephant’
Dear friends of antiques, It is very sad and I feel sorry to mention it here but you should know that the so-called samarkand/ khotan/turkestan carpets so herolded as most valuable and hyped all over america are a alarming sign to be taken serious. We do not talk here about the carpets purchased from several buyers either directly in turkestan or from turkestan back in the 18th,19th and early 20th century and brought to western countries or imported to the US back then. These carpets like the ones taked about above or shown and seen at other galleries all over america and advertised as late 1900′s,early 20th century or 1910′ or 1930′ khotans/samarkands were seen as objects for worst speculation and mostly bought off or better ‘ robbed off ’ from turkestan homes for -nearly nothing- back in the 1980′s until today from chinese ,indian or american salesmen when the miserable conditiones there caused by the chinese massacres and genocides on this humble people made them to accept every price. That was when the wolves rushed in to get these objects nearly for a few dollars. Brought to america,stored away with the other-sooner collected carpets from this area and piled up to the roof from the so honorable Doris Lesley Blaus and Wovenaccents and Nazmialcollection,Oakparkantiques and many more out there. They do not sell exept a very view of any carpets of this area since decades because of their super-phantastic prize charged for the happiness of mental-ill customers. For example: First they want 16.000 USD and no one buyes ,than they try with 8.000 USD and no one buys ,than they starting to become sane and whant 3.000 UDS and still no one buyes them and if they would become a little more sane and would want 1,500 USD still there would be hardly to find someone who would accept the prize. Even if they -as they themself think- ‘give away’ these rugs ‘ for nothing’ and charge a 600 USD they will hardly find someone who will accept the prize. A so-called worth of 16.000 USD is in reality worth around 2000USD and that is not even the prize our honored carpetdealer has payed himself for it. This can be very well seen if one overlooks their customs in a 20 -30 year timespan. And now the chinese salesmen themself and the indian carpetsellers became infectet with this greedy and shameless behaviour and try to sell this kind of rugs on ebay or on their own websites to foolish people for astronomical prizes and no one buys them,exept those very view ones who do not know what else to do with their money. It seems that to give the impression of a public interrest in these kind of objects they sell these carpets to each other from time to time. Doris Lesley Blau for example got also many of their carpets from english collections but these ones are not the matter here. Nazmialcollection also became totally irreal and serves as an good example of the above mentioned super-fantastic prize hype and decrease illness. These honored houses have manipulated as much as they can, bleached to death,distressed the textiles more than they where allready and so on to make them look more antique and to fool their ‘so admired customers’. A good exampe for this is Wovenaccent from california -they charge for an 'antique khotan rug' -distressed and bleached to death,worth nearly nothing- around 5000 USD to 14000 USD,which shows how shameless they treat their most valued customers. Valued -of course- just because of the smell of money. These after-1880′s -carpets when annilin colours where allready used for decades became increasingly uninteresting to carpet admirers all over the world until now and this can be seen very well if one looks at the interest collectors and carpet admires give to this rugs, which where manipulatively given such an importance and were so overestimatet by clever salesmen who tried their best to infect interior designers,architects, and so on so that they could find a way to make their need for huge profits satisfied. That is why they have to give an artificial hype and push to this kind of ‘antiques’ In fact they have destroyed these rugs nearly. and just out of their greed they themself call ‘a nobel art’. These honorable carpetsellers do not have any problem with their conscience when taking out huge profits from the pockets of their so-beloved -customers in return for nearly nothing! These ‘clever’ businesmen do not sleep well if they cannot charge their at least 20- times-to-high prizes which they pin on these carpets . It is very interesting to note that most of these carpets can be purchased in oversee asia or europe or elswhere for a minimum of the price with which these honorable sellers fool their customers. For example: A carpet in america at Wovenaccents or Nazmialcollection or at Doris Blau will not be sold under 6000.- to 20.000.- USD or even much more and in asia
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Mr.Azwas Truv
A carpet in america at Wovenaccents or Nazmialcollection or at Doris Blau will not be sold under 6000.- to 20.000.- USD or even much more and in asia or europe a similar one will cost between 50 – 3000 USD and the prize in asia or europe is so high because they look at the prize set in america and try also to overestimate them to make more profit on them which does not work very well because carpet-lovers do rather spent their money on real worth. So they try to get the most profit out of this objects in so-called ‘dumbed down america’. And all this is done by good-old tricksters with a nice smile. Our american carpet-dealers do not care if no one buys these carpets in a 30 year timespan-they would rather let the carpets be eaten up by the moths than selling them for a normal price and wait like a spider in her web for a custumer to fool them for their money because of the customers lack of knowledge of carpets. That is all so because our honored ‘dealers’ which got their rugs from ‘ stealers’ ‘ value the rugs so much’ that when ever they can they walk on them with their own shoes and just with shoes to ‘increase’ the carpet’s value. They think that each time they walk personally on the rugs they become more worth a 1000 USD . And this has to be so because the gods walked on them. This custom is practised alot on a wide range of ‘antique rugs’,especially in our country.
But now we come to the most important point and very sad fact of this story: Nor do the people of this terror-shaken area called east turkestan had or have until now benefited in any way from this transfer of their belongings which they themself created with their own hand out of their immens creativity and skill mostly for their own use and also some for the export to eastern china and western countries nor do the customers of our honored carpetdealers benefit in any way from their 'friendly' behaviour. The only ones who would benefit the most if only they could find enough fools to buy their cheatings would be our honored ‘ fine-art-of-cheating carpetsellers. -just give it an smell of originality mixed with a good-selling-story and -that is what they speculate -these carpets also could be sold for astrononical profits,and were sold from time to time. It is all done in the name of ‘fine art’ or any other nice-sounding manipulation by consciousless businesmen. A carpetseller normaly buys a carpet for the 5th or 6th or even more of the phantastic price he wants from his own customer in return for a carpet. It is just a shame what happened with this profession in the course of the last 80 years. You give him your carpet and he gives you a little money and the next day the same carpet is worth 15 times more. And this is all done by masters of 'Making an elephant out of a mouse and a mouse out of an elephant'
21.10.2012. (17:41)
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Mr.Azwas Truv
‘Making-an-elephant-out-of-a-mouse and making-a-mouse-out-of-an-elephant’
Dear friends of antiques,
It is very sad and I feel sorry to mention it here but you should know that the
so-called samarkand/ khotan/turkestan carpets so herolded as most valuable and hyped all over america are a alarming sign to be taken serious.
We do not talk here about the carpets purchased from several buyers either directly in turkestan or from turkestan back in the 18th,19th and early 20th century and brought to western countries or imported to the US back then.
These carpets like the ones taked about above or shown and seen at other galleries all over america and advertised as late 1900′s,early 20th century or 1910′ or 1930′ khotans/samarkands were seen as objects for worst speculation and mostly bought off or better ‘ robbed off ’ from turkestan homes for -nearly nothing- back in the 1980′s until today from chinese ,indian or american salesmen when the miserable conditiones there caused by the chinese massacres and genocides on this humble people made them to accept every price.
That was when the wolves rushed in to get these objects nearly for a few dollars.
Brought to america,stored away with the other-sooner collected carpets from this area and piled up to the roof from the so honorable Doris Lesley Blaus and Wovenaccents and Nazmialcollection,Oakparkantiques and many more out there.
They do not sell exept a very view of any carpets of this area since decades because of their super-phantastic prize charged for the happiness of mental-ill customers.
For example:
First they want 16.000 USD and no one buyes ,than they try with 8.000 USD and no one buys ,than they starting to become sane and whant 3.000 UDS and still no one buyes them and if they would become a little more sane and would want 1,500 USD still there would be hardly to find someone who would accept the prize. Even if they -as they themself think- ‘give away’ these rugs ‘ for nothing’ and charge a 600 USD they will hardly find someone who will accept the prize.
A so-called worth of 16.000 USD is in reality worth around 2000USD and that is not even the prize our honored carpetdealer has payed himself for it.
This can be very well seen if one overlooks their customs in a 20 -30 year timespan.
And now the chinese salesmen themself and the indian carpetsellers became infectet with this greedy and shameless behaviour and try to sell this kind of rugs on ebay or on their own websites to foolish people for astronomical prizes and no one buys them,exept those very view ones who do not know what else to do with their money.
It seems that to give the impression of a public interrest in these kind of objects they sell these carpets to each other from time to time.
Doris Lesley Blau for example got also many of their carpets from english collections but these ones are not the matter here.
Nazmialcollection also became totally irreal and serves as an good example of the above mentioned super-fantastic prize hype and decrease illness.
These honored houses have manipulated as much as they can, bleached to death,distressed the textiles more than they where allready and so on to make them look more antique and to fool their ‘so admired customers’.
A good exampe for this is Wovenaccent from california -they charge for an 'antique khotan rug' -distressed and bleached to death,worth nearly nothing- around 5000 USD to 14000 USD,which shows how shameless they treat their most valued customers. Valued -of course- just because of the smell of money.
These after-1880′s -carpets when annilin colours where allready used for decades became increasingly uninteresting to carpet admirers all over the world until now and this can be seen very well if one looks at the interest collectors and carpet admires give to this rugs, which where manipulatively given such an importance and were so overestimatet by clever salesmen who tried their best to infect interior designers,architects, and so on so that they could find a way to make their need for huge profits satisfied.
That is why they have to give an artificial hype and push to this kind of ‘antiques’
In fact they have destroyed these rugs nearly.
and just out of their greed they themself call ‘a nobel art’.
These honorable carpetsellers do not have any problem with their conscience when taking out huge profits from the pockets of their so-beloved -customers in return for nearly nothing!
These ‘clever’ businesmen do not sleep well if they cannot charge their at least 20- times-to-high prizes which they pin on these carpets .
It is very interesting to note that most of these carpets can be purchased in oversee asia or europe or elswhere for a minimum of the price with which these honorable sellers fool their customers.
For example:
A carpet in america at Wovenaccents or Nazmialcollection or at Doris Blau will not be sold under 6000.- to 20.000.- USD or even much more and in asia
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Mr.Azwas Truv
A carpet in america at Wovenaccents or Nazmialcollection or at Doris Blau will not be sold under 6000.- to 20.000.- USD or even much more and in asia or europe a similar one will cost between 50 – 3000 USD and the prize in asia or europe is so high because they look at the prize set in america and try also to overestimate them to make more profit on them which does not work very well because carpet-lovers do rather spent their money on real worth.
So they try to get the most profit out of this objects in so-called ‘dumbed down america’.
And all this is done by good-old tricksters with a nice smile.
Our american carpet-dealers do not care if no one buys these carpets in a 30 year timespan-they would rather let the carpets be eaten up by the moths than selling them for a normal price and wait like a spider in her web for a custumer to fool them for their money because of the customers lack of knowledge of carpets.
That is all so because our honored ‘dealers’ which got their rugs from ‘ stealers’
‘ value the rugs so much’ that when ever they can they walk on them with their own shoes and just with shoes to ‘increase’ the carpet’s value.
They think that each time they walk personally on the rugs they become more worth a 1000 USD . And this has to be so because the gods walked on them.
This custom is practised alot on a wide range of ‘antique rugs’,especially in our country.
But now we come to the most important point and very sad fact of this story:
Nor do the people of this terror-shaken area called east turkestan had or have until now benefited in any way from this transfer of their belongings which they themself created with their own hand out of their immens creativity and skill mostly for their own use and also some for the export to eastern china and western countries nor do the customers of our honored carpetdealers benefit in any way from their 'friendly' behaviour.
The only ones who would benefit the most if only they could find enough fools to buy their cheatings would be our honored ‘ fine-art-of-cheating carpetsellers.
-just give it an smell of originality mixed with a good-selling-story and -that is what they speculate -these carpets also could be sold for astrononical profits,and were sold from time to time.
It is all done in the name of ‘fine art’ or any other nice-sounding manipulation by consciousless businesmen.
A carpetseller normaly buys a carpet for the 5th or 6th or even more of the phantastic price he wants from his own customer in return for a carpet.
It is just a shame what happened with this profession in the course of the last 80 years.
You give him your carpet and he gives you a little money and the next day the same carpet is worth 15 times more.
And this is all done by masters of
'Making an elephant out of a mouse and a mouse out of an elephant'
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