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  • Lika2

    hehehe ...nije krv voda, pa nek ste im pokazali kako se to radi u nas ;))))

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    20.09.2010. (21:45)    -   -   -   -  

  • Prinz

    ;)

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    21.09.2010. (10:40)    -   -   -   -  

  • db

    Svaka čast!

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    21.09.2010. (12:50)    -   -   -   -  

  • Dag Dagoberovic

    aaaa napokon se vratio, koliko vidim ti više bio u šumi nego u bazi .. bitno da si ti lijepo pokazao trećoj bazi na njihove propuste te im tako dao na vremenu da se lijepo organiziraju ...

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    21.09.2010. (16:17)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    @Ličanine ipak smo mi graničari stari ;)

    @Prinz ;)))

    @db hvala!

    @Dag moraš im primjerom pokazati kako se taj posao radi. Baš sinoć razmišljam, kako sam mogao odraditi još najmanje 15-20 ljudi, da nisam radi primarne zadaće traženja kartela igrao na sigurno tj. izbjegavao kontakt. Jedna patrola je prošla od mene doslovce na tri metra, a da me nije vidjela...
    A što se tiče tog napada na bazu, možda je najbolji pouku izrekao naš glavni radio-operater -> In the name of A/1-75RGR (Jablonec nad Nisou) I would like to thank too all players on our side, you did your job really well. Of course there were some mistakes (friendly-fire) and misunderstandings, but when you are in the group of 200 people when many of them see each other just few times in the year, it just happens... Only maybe just think about making pointless noise, when you are in the base...

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    22.09.2010. (11:59)    -   -   -   -  

  • Dag Dagoberovic

    definitivno je problem kad se vidite samo 1 u godini te teško je uskladiti radnje 200 ljudi prema istome cilju a da ne naleti se na greške .. ipak bitno je da je bilo zabavno i dobro, vidio sam sa foruma da je i Bilich poslao svoje viđenje događanja te da je bio zadovoljan sa onime što je učinio kao LARP igrač ...

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    22.09.2010. (14:23)    -   -   -   -  

  • praksi

    Hello Guys!

    Greetings from Hungary, and thanks for the game! I don't know how did you find the game, we expected much more. But, maybe next time :-)

    Oh, and I got a "Placenici" patch from one of your mates; thank you, and I hope you didn't lose your gloves :-D

    Bye

    praksi
    Sound of Guns team
    Hungary

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    22.09.2010. (20:56)    -   -   -   -  

  • Prinz

    Servus Sofia!!!!

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    22.09.2010. (23:19)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    @Dag ništa nije problem ako postoji kvalitetno vodstvo. Dečki su stvarno bili ok, ali fali im malo iskustva i organizacije. To je jedan od razloga zašto sam igrao kao one-man-army i proveo 15 sati iza neprijateljskih linija. Dečki su prihvaćali sve što sam im sugerirao, ali u konačnici ja sam bio autsajder i nisam im se htio nametati. Zato sam primjerom pokazao kako bi to trebalo raditi. E sad... jesu li što naučili iz toga, doznat ćemo sljedeće godine ;)

    @Praksi luckily did not lose gloves because after that I put them in pocket of my battle west ;)))
    Btw you should stay with me near village. If I had just one more gun to cover my back... we could take the village under our control. TF guys there was totally unprepared for any serious resistance and in few seconds I waste seven of them while others did not react at all. If one Frenchy did not stop me with talk - There is no fighting during lunch time (The Obelix kind of talk ;))) - I could kill rest of them...
    But... that is what it is. Until next year...
    In meantime if you and your guys are coming to Croatia, you are welcome to join us on training. So you can see how rest of "crazy Croats" do the job ;)))

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    23.09.2010. (11:07)    -   -   -   -  

  • fanny

    Dakle...
    jednostavno nemam suvislog komentara, doli zaključka da nam postaješ sve više "wanted"...
    A što bi tek bilo da te ne boli kuk i koljeno :)))))))))))
    Nek se vidi kako funkcionira naša gerila, na kojoj se Švabe zube slomili, pozdravček :)))))))

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    23.09.2010. (16:12)    -   -   -   -  

  • Glum

    Ahoj Manga!

    I am Glumito Alejandro(guy with axe) a "cousin" and hospital-helper of mayer´s daughter. We´re spoken for long time in front of familia Alejandro casa (I do believe you was inside too) Dont worry, you´ll get Brujo next time.. maybe with that knife I gave to you:D I wrote with one czech soldier, you "shoot" in village and it seem to be just really big misunderstanding much more than a bad will. He states, he´ll fall dead before you next time ;o)

    Mayer´s Alejandros was actually only pro-government family in village. Others 4 families had pro-kartel and pro-guerilla settings. But soldiers soon convinced mayer, they are bad side to support. They executed priest even! etc. Ehhhh... actually guerillas did not their propaganda well too when they crossfired twice village, they hit many peasants. I´ve heard, one peasant slited guerilla fighter because he went to his house without permission :)))

    Maybe you noticed storyline about mayer´s daughter wedding contest. In fact she had secret guerilla lover. She did wanted wedding. An undercower guerilla came to village with "injured" hand, she as medic helped him. He lead her to guerilla base at night.
    Mayer wanted his daughter back. He told TF commander, village will fight with soldiers next day. Morning we get up but no army no other villagers awaken. Alejandro familia(black hats) wandered around TF basis alone. Most troopes were still sleeping (only ready soldiers we meet were czechs :))) We started our scouting alone, prepaired to fight guerilla on our own. Alejandros were watching for guerilla bunker in big greenfield about 7 clock. But they were caught by incoming czech guerillas from woods behind their backs. Mayer and guerilla CO made little chat and diplomacy was succesfull. No shooting. Alejandros went back to willage. Mayers plan was to support TF during first phase of attack and switch sides by main guerilla base. But few peasants marching with soldiers started their vendetta for killed priest by TF sliting to soon so rebelion started earlier. Than peasants were attacked by both sides this time. I can reveal now, I was secret guerilla informant. Friends from my airsoft team were guerillas so I was sending intel time to time. They made scouting and ambushes agaist TF bases. When main power of peasant mob started to move, this small unit was under attack on first bunker in grassfield. I used radio to get sitrep from CO and then we coordinated sweap. Peasants killed everything in grass around bunker and unit was set free. That´s my favorite moment of game :o) Then villagers car took injured guerilas to base, but was unfortunately ambushed so they died anyway. Another nice moment was when priest, riding as passenger on that four-wheeler, was blessing to marching peasants :D:D

    Im really glad, I had oportunity to play with You all from other countries. Its really very very interesting funny and good way for meet cool players ;o)

    See you at BW again ;o)

    glum23@seznam.cz

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    23.09.2010. (21:03)    -   -   -   -  

  • sagittariusclassic

    ...Upravo si se isproducirao na državnoj dalekovidnici, bez brkova, a i nije ti neka ilegala...:))))))))))))))))

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    23.09.2010. (23:07)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    @Fanny da budem iskren, ni sam ne znam odakle sam izvukao snage za taj napor i petnaest satno neprekidno kretanje od čega većinu iza neprijateljskih linija. No tamo nisam igrao samo za sebe, nego prvenstveno za neke više interese. Sada znam koliko sam težak i mogu u miru privest kraju ono što sam isplanirao za ovu godinu. A nakon toga, vidjet ćemo kako će se situacija dalje razvijati. U svakom slučaju sve je to dio većeg plana ;)))

    @Glum Ahoj to you too ;)
    Yes, we definitely had nice piece of chat in the village. Thank you for the knife and also great inside story about turmoils inside the village and between families. Of course I did not know that in the moment, and just want to do fair my piece of job. If I played more as a guerrilla commissar instead deep reconnaissance commando... maybe some things would be solved faster. But it is little bit hard to negotiate in surroundings where players speech pretty "bad english". Of course that is not including you ;)))
    However it was good and fort-filling experience which we can not experience in our homeland because on "greatest" 24-hour fight in Croatia in total you have less fighters than BW had on one side...
    Also for end I must tell you - for killing of priest (among 20 other villagers) is responsible Bilich with one TF soldier from Holand. This time he played for himself and want to see how good he will be in the role of war criminal. He even tried to sell me to the TF213... but...
    However I had great time and next year probably it would be even better. In the meantime if you come to Zagreb I would like to have few beers with you. Until than, wish you all the best ;)

    @Sag jbg posudio sam ih Mrletu preko vikenda. Tko je moga očekivat ovo jučer... no bez obzira na njihovu fizičku nazočnost - oni su uvijek prisutni duhom ;)))))))

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    24.09.2010. (08:40)    -   -   -   -  

  • fanny

    Vidim da smo Sagi i ja gledali treći dnevnik :)
    Plastična igračka F16, he he he he he, ne daš ti kontra rusa, ali ako ništa drugo nitko nije poginuo, iako ne kužim što je u pitanju, ajd' me malo prosvjetli na mail, ako nije problem, nekako ne vjerujem medijima, institucijama i istragama, imamo s njima lošeg iskustva...
    Pozzzz :)))))

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    24.09.2010. (10:24)    -   -   -   -  

  • kočijaš

    Manga legendo po običaju se samo ti zauzimaš za struku. Izdvajam tvoju izjavu da dečke treba odlikovat jer se usude sa tako malo naleta uopće sjesti u avione. Nema nijednog čvarka koji se usudi uprijeti prstom u pravu istinu. Smradovi tipa Bagarić samo štite svoje fotelje, a trebali bi stati pred svoje ljude :(

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    24.09.2010. (11:15)    -   -   -   -  

  • Glum

    Yes, communication and identification could be problems :-) Actually me favorite players besides you were slovene medic and twoo germans... medic and one commander(he executed priest once too:))) They were funy larp-ists and we chated in english pretty well.
    I admire that your friend joined kartel, it surely could not be easy to operate in foreign surrounding.

    I remeber really good moments about communication. I meet an polish platoon so I warned them, in woods I saw guerillas. I was walking in front of them but they told my, its ok, i can go home. We used english but I could understhand them anyway... but they still translated it to english :D:D Or when village was uder fire at night. Street lights... it was like shootingrange. Peasants and soldiers pretty slaughtered. I had 3 injured troopers in hospital but I wasnt medic and mayer´s daughter disapeared so we´re looking for an TF.
    But there were still "bullets" in air. In last tent next the bordelo were few injured TFs and in front few peasants on ground. Slovak medics were taking money! D Firefigt stoped so I asked medic to come in to hospital but ...too late. Soldiers died :X Than It started all again. Another shooting :D Hospital totaly full..one german, peasants, SL TSs. You couldnot move. And "bullets" were hiting even tent :) Than came these SK TSs. But they got injured too! We spoke each other in our languages, we´re arguing. Im not medic, they stated I "had to watch many times how to do it" I was scared, they want to shoot me ..hahahahah... but then only gave me a little money... which they surely took before from injured peasants! :D:D An SL trooper asked us to use english, we totally forget :))) And than I realised, that german is a medic! That was so funny :D:D

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    24.09.2010. (13:22)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    @Fanny nema to veze sa ljubavlju, niti s orjentaciojom ovom ili onom. Ako je nešto dobro, onda je dobro. Nađi mi zapadni avion čiji prototip je poletio 1956, a da danas još leti. Samo ta činjenica dovoljno govori o kvaliteti tog stroja. Naši piloti su se s njim vraćali izbušeni mecima i zgužvanih krila, a to je rijetko koji stroj u stanju. Sirov, jednostavan, ali *ebeno pouzdan je odlika te marke... koju diljem svijeta poznaju pod imenom MiG. Isto kao što i malo koja puška na svijetu može nadmašiti Kalašnjikov u njegovoj pouzdanosti i ubojitosti ;)
    Što se prosvijetljivanja tiče, zaista nije bitno što se točno dogodilo i kako je došlo do njihovog sudara, bitnije su neke druge stvari. Evo pustili su mi na 101-ci danas dvije prostoproširene rečenice, klikni na to... i zaključi sama što to što zaista smrdi u državi Hrvatistanu...

    @Kočijašu dezintegracija OSRH je u finalnoj fazi. Još malo, pa nestalo. Upozoravao sam na to dok sam bio u sustavu, pa dvije i pol godine iza toga na blogu, a ovo sada su samo zadnji trzaji... i iskreno zaboli me patka. Ko ima nešto u glavi i sam može vidjet gdje to sve vodi. Ako se sami ne pobrinemo za sebe i svoje, nitko nam neće pomoći. Najbolji primjer ti je ova poplavica. Iz toga se vidi koliko je država sposobna pomoći vlastitim građanima. Opet ljudi ovise sami o sebi i doslovce pomoći dobrih ljudi. A vojska pošalje "čak" 100 vojnika kao ispomoć... jad i bijeda...

    @Glum organization and good management is mother of all battles ;)))
    Since I was first time there, I did not want to became boring with some kind of nagging... but C3I was the weakest part of the game. So I became one-man-army and tried to show with own example how that job should be done. How much I succeed in my agenda... let other people judge. Maybe I have to serious view on that game but... I cant help myself. Because relatively fast I can discover the essence of problem and offer solution for it.
    Your description very nice discovers typical war-chaos which is result of weak leadership. Instead of that, war must be controlled chaos. Of course it can not be done without reliable line of command and strong individuals incorporated inside that line. OK that is just a game, but also can show us same symptoms like in real combat situation. Simulation is something which is designed to prepare us for real thing. So I tried to learn my lection very good ;)))

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    24.09.2010. (20:25)    -   -   -   -  

  • fanny

    Jesi iskoristio kad su te već pitali :))))
    Veliš ti - nađi mi auto star 40 god a da ide - pa Gaz čovječe, '66. godište a lim k'o u tenka. A majčica Rusija, što ćeš:)))))))))))

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    24.09.2010. (22:51)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    Bez idealiziranja ikoga, treba odabirati bolja rješenja za nas. No to je pitanje struke, a ne nekakvih kvazi generalčića sa nekakvim vojnim školicama i kursićima. Ne znam jesi li skužila na kraju, kad siroče više nije imalo šta reći na moje upiranje prstom u bitak problema, okomio se na moje obrazovanje. Pa mu je prvo izletilo da sam završio akademiju (halo!!!), pa je to korigirao u školu za pilota. Tebi za informaciju akademija je trajala 3 ili 4 godine, a škola za pilota je jednogodišnjojni i kurs, dok je moja malenkost odradila 9 semestara i pritom položila više od sedamdeset ispita za zvanje dipl.ing. Posdiplomski u trajanju još 6 semestara neću ni spominjat, kao ni znanstveno-istraživački rad na knjigama generala-pukovnika, koji je u bivšoj državi bio predavač na najvišoj vojnoj školi i konstruirao maltene sve što je letilo u JRV.
    Eto to ti dovoljno govori o razini obrazovanja naših generala, koji one svoje jednogodišnje kursiće tipa ratna školica idu uspoređivati sa znanstvenim stupnjevima magistra i doktora. A koliko je uistinu upoznat sa stanjem u HRZ-u dovoljno govori podatak da nije znao tko je od "starih" još ostao u sustavu, pa je nagađao da u eskadrili još lete Ivandić i Selak. Btw Selak je odavno probni pilot u ZTZ-u, a Ivandića su isto pomeli u penziju kad je stao pred svoje ljude...
    Jad i bijeda pogolema. A vjeruj mi Štimac je još mila majka, prema "stručnjacima" koji su ga naslijedili. Čistokrvni klimavci, poltroni i pričmarnici...

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    25.09.2010. (10:40)    -   -   -   -  

  • fanny

    Ne moraš ti meni ništa objašnjavat', ako se dobro sjećam zapelo je na doktoratu, izabrao si krivu temu i nisi znao zavezat'...A nije li ovaj gen.pukovnik iz bivše vojske, Z. Rendulić?
    O brzopoteznim generalima, neću trošiti riječi, ali bilo je toga i nekad, samo da pitaš Noska, postao si tata-mata s običnim kursom. A on je svoju srednju tehničku pilio uz posao, pune 4 godine, a strojarstvo poslije toga - godinu po godinu, nije bilo ništa preko reda. No dobro, njega je to zanimalo, pa mu je išlo. No, interesantno, jedan njegov ratni drug je završio i srednju i ekonomski faks, magisterij i doktorat za isto vrijeme (!!) Moram li reći da na tom ekonomskom području nikad nije dao ništa, nikad se za njega nije čulo ništa konkretno...
    A hebaj ga, bilo je toga i bit' će...
    Pozdravček :)))

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    25.09.2010. (11:03)    -   -   -   -  

  • Bilich

    Pozdrav ljudi.

    Ubila me gripa nakon onoga MRE-a ( nije ono zdravo rođaci ni malo ). Ja sam iskreno rečeno zadovoljan susretom i svojom ulogom ratnog kriminalca. Sad se živi puno bolje i puno lakše. :)))
    Htio sam probati i LARP na većem susretu i ispalo je super ( samo su me nervirali ljudi koji ne znaju Engleski a igraju LARP :s )

    Nisam mislio da ću ovo ikada reći ali mislim da je Manga bio jedan od ljudi koji su obilježili sami susret. Wanted lista , ubijanje vojnika po selu, oficir odmah na prvom većem fajtu i ona bolesna 16 satna šetnja :s. Drago mi je da samo bili gore , što se mene tiče isplatilo se.

    Svaka čast plaćenicima koji su jedini u RH pokazali interes da sudjeluju na Border War-u ;)

    Dobio sam pozivnicu za Ranger milsim u Portugalu, koliko vidim neki bolesni milsim u kojemu ne nosiš vodu , bobe i hranu , oni ti daju s tim da ti protivnik to sve može i oteti. Pa ako nemaš vode jebi se druže. 5 mjesec , 350 ljudi. To bi mogao biti test za fajrunt :)) Vidit ćemo još, da je para koliko i volje ne bi ni silazio s terena :(((

    And also , as I can see, this became international blog so i want to say thanks to all players that made BW such a good game. Also , i would like to say thanks to all good and naive people who let me to their bases without searching me and who payed for false infromation. You are my best friends :))) When I tried to sell Manga to TF my phone broke up. It must be some kind of a sign. :)))

    I tought that this could be something like Berget but i did not. It was not enough action and terain was too huge , but it was very good game with a lot of milsim and good larp. Next time it will be better.

    See you on Berget 9 in Sweden. ;)

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    26.09.2010. (02:54)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    @Fanny i doktorat je bio zgotovljen, ali pošto nisam platio (niti namjeravam) tema nije mogla proći. A šta'š kad nisam jadan radio u Zapovjedništvu HRZ i ne znam razmišljat na operativnoj i strategijskoj razini. Zato se drvoprerađivaču Štimcu (o kojem sam ranije imao pozitivno mišljenje) i njemu sličnima mogu samo zahvalit, što više ne moram gledat ono što rade tj. do čega su doveli moju bivšu firmu. Srećom odavno sam vidio kamo sve to vodi i na vrijeme povukao crvenu ručicu na kojoj piše EJECT ;)))

    @Bilichu a da ti nisam reka, da ne jedeš to *ovno... još bi te i žalio. No bitno je da si se pokajao i uvidio svoju zabludu ;))))
    Hvala na komplimentima. Osobno zadovoljan sam učinjenim, ali... uvijek ima neko ali, a u ovom konkretnom slučaju - znam da sam neke stvari mogao i bolje. No u prevelikom žaru i htijenju da ispuniš neku svoju fix-ideju, često zaboraviš što je zaista bitno i zbog toga skreneš sa pravog puta. No bitno je to uvidjeti, spoznati i izvući pouke za ubuduće. Eto ja sam svoje izvukao, a nadam se da si i ti svoje. Uživaj ;))))

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    26.09.2010. (15:47)    -   -   -   -  

  • Glum

    Manga, yes, thats true, often problem, you dont have good leader and commander and people than says "no actionL etc. but organisatores can not do everything of course... I says.. When you want action, you must be active alone. That just how things works. First key thing is good CO, second his setting of army... to put right peope in to right posts.... thats alll isnt such easy when you have to improvize.

    Bilich, thanks for using english... it helps me.. despite beeing an czech... i have problemz to understand all in your language here ;o)

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    28.09.2010. (13:20)    -   -   -   -  

  • airsoft pokret Plaćenici

    @Glum no mater to all that (lack of initiative in first place)... BW was great fight and excellent place to find out how much you worth. As I told to some players there... during fight must be more initiative because orders are only suggestions. Also in realsteel it is all about your ass, so you must bring best decision for you. If you die it is "game over". I played in such maners during two days and nobody hit me with BB. Even when I did pretty crazy stuff - like Clint Eastwood kind of walk trough village or lone wolf attack on the base... Now it is not important was it luck or knowledge. Finally all that was about testing myself. Now I know ;))))

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    28.09.2010. (20:21)    -   -   -   -  

  • Bilich

    Yo Glum. It would be nice to have LARP players who can speak English like you do. There was like a 90% LARP players who do now understand English and how the fuck shoul i speak with them. It's just stupid, if it is international airsoft game where English is offical language learn it or do not play LARP :))

    I was luckly to be war criminal and walk arround if i had to stay at that village with all those ''ne speak Enlecki'' motherfuckers I would kill them all at the same start of the game :)))

    Yeah , chears mate. You have very nice country ( we know because it took us 4 hours from Prag to Mlada Boleslav [ Manga was the navigator LOL ] and we were at place called ''Srbin'', that was awsome ) but there is one thing that i noticed about your girls. When they are at home they are all shy and ''do not look at me please I am all shy'' style and when they are here , on the beach , they are just like ''who wants to fuck me tonight'' style. LOL and that's not good for you not for us :D :D

    See you mate ;)

    And do you know anyone who wants sell some MREs , if you know where i can buy them please send me an e-mail ( bilicws@live.com)

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