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David Icke is the most controversial author and speaker in the world. Since 1990 David has been on amazing journey going where others fear to thread, exposing hidden agendas and lost truths. The RINF.COM Media Hijack group took part in a question & answers session with very special guest, Mr David Icke. This interview took place in May 2005. You can catch up with David Icke here. Rinf.com: Can we have the low-down on the new book? David Icke: It is about the illusory nature of reality and how it is manipulated to hold us in a mind-prison. It explains how we live in a holographic version of the Internet in which we are fed a collective reality in waveform which our DNA, a biological computer, decodes into holographic pictures, much as a television does in theme. It also talks about how we disconnect from the program and take control of our own reality, and, therefore, experience. Rinf.com: Have you ever been contacted by Illuminati agents, received threats, warnings etc? David Icke: Not in the sense that they have done it openly. Rinf.com: Do you worry about your personal safety? David Icke: No Rinf.com: And what advice would you give to those trying to expose these hidden agendas? David Icke: Do what you know to be right without fear of the consequences. Fear of the consequences manifests the consequences. ABTS asks: Mr Icke, first of all let me thank you for all the work you're doing for the people of this planet. You've often spoke about an energy or entity around you. What do you think this is? A spirit guide, a guardian angel? Have you had communications with this being? David Icke: Thank-you. I have come to understand this 'force' around me far more in recent times. It is consciousness beyond the 'Matrix', beyond the program, that is feeding in information to explain the illusion that we are caught in - and how to free ourselves. Anyone can access this level of knowledge, but most people don't because they identify who they are with the programmed 'world' and believe it to be real to all there is. What we believe, we experience. This guiding force is getting stronger and stronger within me every day to the point where I don't have to research as much in the 'five-sense' way anymore. Much of it comes direct. ABTS asks: Do you ever see "orbs"? David Icke: No Sixy asks: Do you think that you, and the beliefs that you hold, have been unfairly represented in the media? And do you see this as a conspiracy against you? David Icke: Yes, of course, they have unfairly represented, indeed often fundamentally mis-represented, what I am saying, but that goes with the territory. Anyone who has operated outside the box has been ridiculed, condemned and mis-represented by those in the box. And journalists as a profession, with honourable exceptions, are children of the box. Yes, there is an agenda to present me in a negative way to people, but those orchestrating this are a tiny few. The rest of the journalistic comedy club just do what they always do - take the piss out of those who are different and thus, ironically, serve the conspiracy they deny exists! Goat asks: Have you ever read any of Robert E. Howard's Cthulhu Mythos stories and if he has, what he thinks about them. Specifically "The Shadow Kingdom". David Icke: No, not seen those. Taro asks: Since there is an endless amount of unconsciousness and suffering in the world, at what point do you stop paying attention to all the tricks of the Illuminati in order to start creating that heaven or joyous existence for yourself and others in our virtual hologram or conscious utopias? LOVE&RESPECT David Icke: Why can't we do both? What we have here is a need for reconnecting ourselves to those levels of consciousness beyond the Matrix, beyond the mind prison. But the greatest block to that is the way society and people are manipulated to stay mesmerised by the illusion - the one with all the unconsciousness and suffering. To expose and remove that manipulation and control would bring down the dam that holds people in mental, emotional and spiritual servitude more than anything else because the guards would be removed from the gateways to enlightenment. So its not one or the other, I would say, but both. Rinf.com: Do you notice a change or shift in human behavior? David Icke: Very much so. I have been a barometer of it in many ways since I went public with this 15 years ago. I have also been to more than 40 countries researching and talking. There is a massive awakening taking place, just as I was told there would be in 1990, and the next ten years are going to bring about a fantastic transformation that will, however, not be without its serious challenges. The Illuminati will do all they can to block it, but they are like King Canute to the rising tide. We are at a fork in the road and it is decision time on which way we want to go. Malio asks: Are you familiar with Grant Morrison's mega-conspiracy comic-book series The Invisibles ? If so, do you perceive Grant as being on any particular 'side'? David Icke: No, not seen that. Sounds about right, though, with the title. Malio asks: I'd also be interested in hearing how you would characterise the type of society that would exist if the Illuminati project was completely successful. Where exactly are we headed if they are not resisted? If I understand your thinking correctly, they only 'conspire' because they don't want to reveal their plans explicitly while it would still be possible to resist them. If we ever reached the stage where they had no need to hide their intentions what kind of a world would we be in? David Icke: It would be a global version of Nazi Germany, the worst of what George Orwell foresaw in his book, 1984. The structure for this is being connected together by the day now. What people call 'globalisation' is the fascist centralisation of power unfolding before us. Cush asks: I'm interested in your views of the genetic engineering of fish, particularly in open sea areas. As a main source of protein for humans, farming fish is a lucrative means to corral corporate power at the expense of the oceanic ecosystem. Are there any concrete links between genetic fish farming and international corporate structure? David Icke: Genetically engineered food is designed to genetically engineer us. That's the agenda, as I explain in the new book. Fletch asks: Do you still believe you are the son of God? If not, was there any particular moment when you realised you were not the offspring of a Deity or was it a more gradual process? David Icke: I am a Son of God, if you can open your mind enough to perceive us all as a droplet in the same infinite ocean of consciousness that some call 'God'. Indeed, open your mind some more (sorry about the headache, Fletch) and you will see that we are not only a droplet, we are the ocean also. Thus, continuing the analogy, we are both the 'son' and the 'father'. Yep, even you, mate Fletch asks: Also if you admit that you were wrong doesn't that make what your saying now also slightly suspect. David Icke: See above. And whether anyone sees what I say as slightly suspect or utterly brilliant it is all the same to me. It is information, make of it what you will. And what you will is none of my business. Fletch asks: If you still think you are the son of God do you think that gives you any special insight? David Icke: I have a special insight that I am seeking to use. Most people have a special insight they do not seek to use, not least because they are told from cradle to grave that it doesn't exist. And the insight is not actually 'special', it is the nature of existence. We have just been manipulated to forget that. Fletch asks: And, can I join your religion? David Icke: Fletch, to those who have bothered to find out anything about me that is not provided by the mainstream media, the question must be hilarious. Religion is the greatest form of mind control every invented. Fletch asks: If you never believed you were the son of God , why do you think people interpreted you as making this claim? David Icke: Can you give me the address of your time warp, Fletch, and I'll write to you! Fletch asks: Also, did you enjoy the Jasper Carrott routine based on the possibility that you may actually be the son of God and how your future followers would then worship you? David Icke: If it was funny I'm sure I would like it. Fletch asks: Will you stop saying the royal family are lizards if you get a knighthood? David Icke: The very thought that I would be offered a knighthood, let alone accept it, leads me to ask you the question you ask of me below, Fletch. Fletch asks: Do you think there is the slightest possibility that throughout the years you've consistently misinterpreted/distorted evidence, facts and/or have relaxed the use of your rational facilities to the point where what you say is obviously very unlikely to correspond to reality or if there are a multitude of realities that your reality is the silliest and not worth bothering about? David Icke: What is reality, Fletch? Explain it to me in your own words. What is the 'world' you are looking at now? Do you think it's 'solid' and 'physically' 'real'. Yes? Then I ask you again: 'Do you think there is the slightest possibility that throughout the years you've consistently misinterpreted/distorted evidence, facts and/or have relaxed the use of your rational facilities to the point where what you say is obviously very unlikely to correspond to reality or if there are a multitude of realities that your reality is the silliest and not worth bothering about?' Fletch asks: If not and you're certain you're right, doesn't that make you as dogmatic as a religious fundamentalist? David Icke: Religious fundamentalists seek to impose their view, I don't give a shit what people think of mine, let alone demand that anyone believes it. By the way, look in the mirror and see what dogma looks back at yourself. Stephan asks: Dear David, Have you yourself ever seen anybody shape shift and could you please tell me if the Dutch Royals are shape shifters (They have a boat that's called "the green dragon" and live in a castle that's called "dragonstein")? David Icke: I have not seen a full shapeshift, but I can sense the eyes and energy of these bloodlines. It is very, very distinctive once you begin to recognise it. The Dutch royal family are big time reptilian shapeshifters, yes. strangedream asks: What are your thoughts on the current education system being used today? David Icke: Gandhi was asked what he thought of western civilisation and he said 'I think it would be a very good idea.' My feelings exactly on 'education'. What we have is not an education system, but an indoctrination machine that implants the desired view of reality to keep the next generations in the same reality box as their parents. But many young people are now beginning to wake up from the trance and reject the programming. Georgie asks: You talk a lot about the matrix. have you ever spoken to Sophia Stewart, the woman who claim to be the original creator of the matrix and the terminator trilogies? she seem to have a lot of knowledge on that topic, and whets your thought on that? David Icke: No, I have never spoken to her, but the Matrix movie concept was a brilliant portrayal of the illusory world we think we live in that only exists in our minds. Georgie asks: have you ever heard about the hypnotherapies dr. Bruce Goldberg, who also have stumbled upon "the reptiles"? he's thoughts on them fits very good with what you are saying, except the shape shifting. David Icke: No, sounds interesting, I'd like to know more. Georgie asks: what's your thoughts on Jordan Maxwell? David Icke: Very good information on symbolism. I think I'll leave it at that. Georgie asks: what's your response to Ivan Fraser's concern about you and Arizona Wilder when the biggest secret was released? David Icke: He has a right to his opinion. The ever-gathering wealth of information has shown it to be misguided, however. The idea that all my information about the reptilians etc. has come from that one source is utterly laughable, ridiculous beyond words, but that was the impression that seemed to be given by many would-be detractors of The Biggest Secret. For every one like Arizona who has had the guts to go public with her name, I speak with countless others who tell me of similar experiences but are frightened to speak openly. Georgie asks: what topics are you currently researching now? David Icke: Wherever life takes me. But it seems to be focusing on the nature of reality, how it is manipulated, and how we can take control of the reality we create. Rinf.com asks: What has been your families reaction to your work, and in what ways has it changed their lives? David Icke: It has opened their minds to a greater picture and my former wife, Linda, and my daughter Kerry both work with me with Bridge of Love Publications in getting this information out around the world. bornlightman asks: Hello David, Thank you for your hard work and research in getting people to see a bigger picture. Do you know of anyone on earth who is capable of bringing the diverse masses together for some real tangible change benefiting the earth as a whole? David Icke: Yep, the diverse masses. And the connection is consciousness beyond the Matrix that we are all capable of accessing. It's coming, have no worries. bornlightman: I've all but lost hope in US. David Icke: The United States is an Illuminati/Matrix entity, that's all, a figment of the illusion. The people living in the US have the potential to reunite with their infinite consciousness in awareness of itself - and that can change anything it wants, including the current plight of what we call the United States. bornlightman asks: Also what can you tell us of the afterlife. David Icke: There is no 'after' life, just the continuation of eternity. The 'afterlife' is the dream that replaces this one in our sense of reality after the illusion we call death. realview asks: David, I relate to at least 2 main components to the NWO. That is the Jesuits and the Money Lenders. The money lenders have been around perhaps forever. The Jesuits have solidified the process with ruthless organization and leadership. How do you reconcile the "Reptilians" with the two groups. I would like to see a clear unified perspective. I'm open to the possibility of the Reptilians, the Zionists the whatever but I do see the basic Money Lender and Jesuit components very clearly. Thanks! David Icke: You are right about the money lenders in that they control the world at every level of five-sense reality through the imposition of debt. I talk about this in great detail in my books. The money scam is at the heart of all Illuminati manipulation of global societies. The Roman Church was the Church of Babylon relocated and so the Jesuits are the agents of the Church of Babylon, the ancient stronghold of the Illuminati bloodlines. They are very significant indeed to the Illuminati agenda. BaNoyse asks: Given that Reptilians are as you detail, is there a way to cause the reptiles true form be to be shown? David Icke: From the hundreds and hundreds of people I have met and communicated with who have seen shapeshifting , it seems that they are most likely to shift in states of extreme anger - fury - sexual fervour and in situations where they are safe to do so, especially their sacrifice rituals. BaNoyse asks: Do you think those controlled by the bonds of religion are also controlled in the next dimension by the tenets they believe in. David Icke: They can be, yes . Death is no cure for ignorance and, as I explain in the new book, the Matrix is multi-dimensional. BaNoyse asks: Are these beings trans dimensional and is that their focus with geometry? David Icke: In the end, the Matrix can be brought down to the level of mathematics, as I explain in detail in the new book. BaNoyse asks: Do you believe that they infest the Universe? David Icke: I think they are biological software programs, very much like Agent Smith in the Matrix movies. Again, see the new book. I don't know about 'infest', but the reptilian genetics - program - seems very significant within the Matrix. Look at the human brain, for example, the oldest part of which is called by science the R-Complex or 'reptilian brain'. BaNoyse: and this piece found in Noah, Enoch wife after the flood When Batenosh my wife noticed that my face had changed (its) _expression [ … … ] then she gained control of her emotion(s) and spoke with me. She said to me, "O my master and [brother, recall for yourself] my pregnancy. I swear to you by the Great Holy One, by the Ruler of Hea[ven] that this seed is yours, that this pregnancy is from you, that from you is the planting of [this] fruit [and that it is] not from any alien, or from any of the Watchers, or from any heavenly being. Why has the appearance] of your face changed like this upon you? And (why) is it disfigured, and your spirit dejected like this? [ … for I] tell you (this) truthfully. vacat David Icke: I spent two weeks recently with the Zulu shaman, Credo Mutwa, in South Africa and he told me of the countless times he hears this same basic story from African women who become pregnant through the 'Chitauri' - the 'Children of the Serpent'. They suffer terribly because people don't believe they became pregnant from a reptilian entity that appeared to them, they say they cheated on their husbands. Then, after about three months, they wake up to find the child has gone from them. BaNoyse: The watchers and aliens - why do you think she speaks so? I also always wonder how a small isolated island could amass such prestige. David Icke: The Illuminati located much of its operation in Britain, especially after William of Orange came over from the Netherlands to take the throne in the late 17th century. BaNoyse: Thank you for you and your families courage. seriouosthinker asks: Hi David, I first have to thank you for turning my life around. Had my girlfriend not given me "the biggest secret" to read, i would have still been a fat lazy idiot. I have many questions i would like to ask but only want one answered at this time. Have you ever met a man called David Gemmell? He is a brilliant writer of heroic medieval fantasy books. In these books they are full of symbolism, and many references are made to reptile-like creatures. David Icke: No, not seen those. seriouosthinker asks: He has even wrote a book called "The Last Guardian" which is an excellent read and is amazingly, about an army of alien-reptile-soldiers from another dimension that invade earth through a special gateway. David Icke: Sounds about right. seriouosthinker: The similarities between your work and this book in particular are quite amazing. David Icke: The thing is that the reptilian connection is far more widely known about than you would think from looking at the mainstream media. The reason it only seems to be me is that I have been one who has managed to get the subject talked about more widely by not being afraid to be dubbed crazy. But a lot of people know about it, as did many ancient peoples. Rinf.com asks: Finally David, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions and do you recommend any aura cleansing / meditation techniques to prevent these negative energies of from tuning in or clinging to our psyche? David Icke: Live with joy and without fear. Aura cleansed. |
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